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		<title>Atheism for the incorrigibly religious</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Throughout my career I&#8217;ve been in search of guidance&#8230; &#8230; I don&#8217;t believe the business of life is obvious&#8230;&#8221; - Alain De Botton Sydney Opera House, 23rd February 2012 Went to see De Botton last night, courtesy of a friend&#8217;s spare ticket and too busy wife. I try to cultivate a studied disdain for De [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Throughout my career I&#8217;ve been in search of guidance&#8230;<br />
&#8230; I don&#8217;t believe the business of life is obvious&#8230;&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align: left; padding-left: 300px;">- Alain De Botton<br />
Sydney Opera House,<br />
23rd February 2012</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Went to see De Botton last night, courtesy of a friend&#8217;s spare ticket and too busy wife. I try to cultivate a studied disdain for De Botton&#8217;s brand of PopPhil. But honestly, it&#8217;s mostly rooted in envy. Who wouldn&#8217;t want to swan around the world, basking in the borrowed glory of real philosophers, talking about the Good, the Wise, the Beautiful?</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="http://andersonpost.org/papermind/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/alain-portrait_2126032b.jpeg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1728" title="alain-de-botton" src="http://andersonpost.org/papermind/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/alain-portrait_2126032b-300x187.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="187" /></a>No, that&#8217;s unfair and too harsh.<br />
De Botton&#8217;s brilliance is one of empathetic understanding. He has an ear for the tragic, for vulnerability, for calling attention to the underpants of life, and he&#8217;s an exceptional communicator. He brought all these considerable gifts to bear last night in his lecture, <em>On Religion for Atheists.</em></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">For De Botton, the fundamental question, too often overlooked in a culture of free-market consumption, is, &#8220;How to Live the Good Life?&#8221; The central premise of the lecture (and in his book I imagine), is that world religions have provided remarkable guidance in exploring and answering this question, but that availing ourselves of these religious insights doesn&#8217;t require acceptance of all the supernatural mumbo-jumbo that comes along with. He promotes, unashamedly, a &#8216;pick and mix&#8217; approach. If religions are cultural products (and they are), why don&#8217;t we treat them like we do other cultural products? You don&#8217;t need to like every song the Beatles recorded to appreciate &#8216;Hey Jude&#8217;. In the same way, you don&#8217;t need to accept every tenet of Christianity or Islam to appreciate the beauty of religious art or religious community. There isn&#8217;t really much argument beyond this, the rest of the lecture consists of a curator&#8217;s tour of the gallery of world religions, highlighting the bits any self-regarding atheist could happily plunder.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The reason that religions have much to teach atheists, according to De Botton, begins with the insight that humans are basically &#8216;not ok&#8217;: the basic human condition is one of vulnerability, fragility, lostness. For De Botton, this is the fundamental truth behind the Christian doctrine of original sin. And it&#8217;s a truth that New Atheism, proclaimed from the High Tables of Oxbridge, abjectly fails to reckon with. The modernist humanistic project has been altogether too quick to leave us to our own devices and what is needed is a thoroughgoing reappraisal of our need for an education in the disciplines of living well. Religions understand this, they understand that education is not about skilling people for tasks, but a process of moral formation and guidance to help us navigate the twin uncertainties of our world and our hearts. The rationalist education produces better hairdressers; the religious, better people.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="http://andersonpost.org/papermind/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/refsr_1_1.jpeg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1729" title="religion-for-atheists" src="http://andersonpost.org/papermind/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/refsr_1_1.jpeg" alt="" width="199" height="300" /></a>De Botton&#8217;s sampling at the <em>bain-marie</em> of religion is guided by his desire to introduce atheists into these effective practices of moral formation. In order to address the human frailties of memory, will, and desire – frailties that ensure that even when we know the good life, we fail to consistently live it – religions apply techniques of habituation, exhortation, organisation, attention to desire, attention to sociality. De Botton spends time glorying in the power of liturgical calendar to ensure we spend time in reflection on virtue (<a href="http://andersonpost.org/2011/03/a-time-for-everything-lent-part-1/" target="_blank">a theme close to my own heart</a>); on the sermon as an art of exhortation (compared with its bloodless alternative, the &#8216;lecture&#8217;); on the power of religions to build genuine community rather than mere voluntary associations; to produce art that moves our hearts toward virtue. All of this was delivered with eloquence, pathos, humour.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">At this point, I was fairly sure I&#8217;d entered into a bizarre parallel universe. The crowd, composed to a measurable degree of those militant atheists who lay their coats down in the street for Richard Dawkins, were lapping this up. I kid you not, one man a few seats to the right of my own, regularly punctuated De Botton&#8217;s points with enthusiastic cheers of agreement: &#8216;Yes! That&#8217;s Right! We need that!&#8217; Possibly the most strange moment was when De Botton started talking up the priesthood, commending the idea of having people devoted to guiding us through the various stages of life, providing counsel, conversation, ritual, consolation. He lamented the fact that all that secular society has been able to provide as an alternative is the psychotherapist, &#8216;and they&#8217;re all sitting around in their bedrooms&#8217;. Now, my impression is that for most New Atheists, the word &#8216;priest&#8217; is synonymous with &#8216;paedophilic leeches upon the common weal&#8217;.  But the crowd swallowed this down with nary a peep.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The lecture ended and I sat there for a while, soaking in the warm glow of a satiated crowd. And I have to admit, I enjoyed it. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever heard a &#8216;non-religious&#8217; person speak so empathetically and insightfully about the value of practices of Christian community. Nothing De Botton said surprised me, after all, he&#8217;s describing things that I love. I think the basic &#8216;philosophical&#8217; anthropology underlying religious practices in a whole variety of traditions is far more sophisticated and true to the human condition than the thin soup offered by atheist alternatives. It&#8217;s not hard to see why: most &#8216;New&#8217; atheism consists in a frenzied yet parasitically dependent denial of religion. New Atheism doesn&#8217;t really have a positive philosophical anthropology, just negations. For that reason, it&#8217;s usually not worth getting out of bed to slap down.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Ultimately, I&#8217;ve decided that I agree with De Botton&#8217;s fundamental thesis, I don&#8217;t think you need to buy into all the claims of a religion in order to appreciate that it might have some great insights about living well. I&#8217;m an evangelical Christian, but that doesn&#8217;t stop me appreciating the peacefulness of a Buddhist garden. I differ from De Botton in understanding that what I love about the peacefulness of a Buddhist garden is a reflection of the fundamental goodness with which God created the world. A goodness so abounding that it is refracted through all sorts of human cultural endeavours, including religions that I happen to think are profoundly mistaken; refracted even through De Botton&#8217;s &#8216;tragic&#8217; atheism.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Strangely, I found within De Botton&#8217;s praise of religion a rather compelling critique of certain versions of conservative evangelicalism. Too frequently, conservative evangelicalism operates with a truncated theological anthropology. As a product of the rationalist Enlightenment, evangelicalism frequently forgets the power of exactly the kinds of practices that De Botton commends: we jettison liturgical habituation to the truths of the gospel, we fail to engage with the fact that we are creatures of desire, of community, who thrill to beauty, who are inescapably embodied. If the full galleries at the Opera House last night are anything to go by, people are craving the kinds of things that make church &#8216;churchy&#8217;. Ironically, in our passion to make churches as welcoming to outsiders as possible we actively trash our rich heritage of these practices until the church gathering becomes indistinguishable from the philosophical lecture, apart from some vestigial (embarrassed) singing.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Now, I&#8217;ve praised Alain De Botton, but the reality is, I do have some questions. Rather serious questions actually&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">It begins with my nagging sense that the kinds of practices which De Botton most likes about religions are &#8216;disciplinary&#8217; practices. Following a liturgy, participating in a community, submitting to the authority of a scripture, are all, in an important sense, &#8216;non-voluntary&#8217;. Religious practices universally involve an element of self-surrender, of submission and sacrifice. We scoff at &#8216;pick and mix&#8217; versions of religion and call them inauthentic precisely because they miss this basic condition. De Botton is right to identify that religions operate with a sense of the fragility of the human condition, but it is a fragility <em>in the face of something transcendent, </em>something that is in principle not capable of subjugation to human powers. What De Botton views as a set of <em><strong>&#8216;therapies&#8217;</strong></em> for the fragility of the human condition (practices that ultimately circle back to terminate upon the acting subject), religions view as <em><strong>disciplines</strong></em> whose ultimate aim is to properly orient and prepare the subject for an encounter with something larger.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Now it would be possible on this basis to say to Alain: &#8216;you haven&#8217;t really experienced religion or these religious practices that you affirm until you&#8217;ve experienced them as disciplinary practices, that is, until you&#8217;ve genuinely submitted yourself to them as a mode of acknowledging your accountability before the divine/transcendent.&#8217; Now, the mode of submission and accountability required to genuinely experience these practices is <em>in principle</em> incompatible with the &#8216;pick and mix&#8217; mode of appropriation of these practices for a humanistic end, and therefore, it is <em>in principle</em> impossible for an atheist to genuinely experience the full value of these religious practices. He is condemned to watch from outside the window.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">To which De Botton would reply (and he did reply to a question along these lines): &#8216;You&#8217;re probably right. However, even if I&#8217;m only getting a pale imitation of the full value of the religious practices, what I&#8217;m getting is good enough for me and for my purposes of moral formation.&#8217; To which I take my hat off. It&#8217;s a very good rejoinder.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">However, that&#8217;s not really my problem with his programme. I don&#8217;t really care whether De Botton has the full-strength or lite-beer experience of religion. What I do worry about is that if these practices are all inherently &#8216;disciplinary&#8217;, if they require a form of submission from the practitioner, then replicating them in atheistic contexts creates the possibility of terrible interpersonal abuses. Let me explain:</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Religions are paternalistic, it&#8217;s a function of the underlying belief that we are frail and in need of guidance. De Botton acknowledged this out the outset and even remarked on the tendency of religions to address adherents as &#8216;children&#8217;. But in most religions (most of the time) this paternalism is held in check and stopped from becoming a terrifying totalitarianism by the belief that humans have a fundamental accountability to God. Particularly in Christianity, a philosophical anthropology of human frailty is counterpoised with a theology of divine sufficiency, of redemptive grace. This is precisely what atheistic humanism lacks. As long as it refuses to admit human frailty, atheism is merely a weird and implausible intellectual fad. But as soon as atheistic humanism adopts a philosophical anthropology of human frailty that it cannot counterpoise against a transcendent sufficiency (and it can&#8217;t in principle because of its humanistic commitments) then it struggles to avoid drifting further and further toward a programme of unrestrained social engineering: a paternalism that becomes totalitarian. Humans are left to becomes their own redeemers. And honestly, nothing is more bloody or more brutal than atheists on a quest to redeem humanity.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">History is littered with examples of precisely the sort of programme of atheistic &#8216;moral formation&#8217; that De Botton romanticises. De Botton is really just rehashing some of the proposals in Plato&#8217;s Republic (poets beware). But these programmes, from Plato onwards, have an unnerving tendency to drift until they becomes something more akin to the Communist &#8216;re-education&#8217; camp. If the only counter to human frailty is a better engineered human rather than a transcendent redemption, then, in principle, there are no lengths to which we should not go to achieve this &#8216;new&#8217; humanity.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Am I over-reacting? Of course. But it might be worth posing the question.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">My final reflection, as I wander out from under the sails, down the stairs, and into the night sky: it seems hard to avoid the sense that perhaps what De Botton is providing is not so much &#8216;religion for atheists&#8217; as a form of atheism for the incorrigibly religious human soul; an athei-anaesthetic for an uneasy consciousness.</p>
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		<title>Q&amp;A: God, Science, and Sanity (1)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, I was on the ABC TV show Q&#038;A last night. You can download the podcast here (copy the link into iTunes or whatever). I&#8217;ve been chatting about the experience with various people over the past few days and thought I might try to set out a couple of reflections here. But first, some background&#8230; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I was on the ABC TV show Q&#038;A last night. You can download <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/vodcast_mp4.xml">the podcast here</a> (copy the link into iTunes or whatever).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been chatting about the experience with various people over the past few days and thought I might try to set out a couple of reflections here. But first, some background&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>How I got there&#8230;</strong><br />
A lady from my Bible Study at St Tom&#8217;s sent an email to the pastor of our congregation noting that the Q&#038;A was hosting Richard Dawkins on Monday night as part of his tour through Australia (he gave a sell-out presentation at the Opera House on the weekend).<a href="http://andersonpost.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/QA-Email.jpg"><img src="http://andersonpost.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/QA-Email-250x215.jpg" class="right" alt="Tony needs your questions" /></a> She suggested that a few people should see if they could get tickets to be part of the studio audience. I thought that sounded like fun, so I filled out <a href="http://www2b.abc.net.au/AudienceBooking/Client/AudienceRegistration.aspx">the form here</a>. On Friday I received an email from one of the producers of the programme telling me that I&#8217;d been selected to be part of the studio audience. The subject line of the email was: Tony Jones wants your Questions!<br />
I felt a warm surge of love for the ABC and for all cardigan wearing, beret toting, goatee stroking members of the pinko-commie liberal media mafia. These are my people, Tony needs me!</p>
<p>Carol the Producer (a satisfyingly Marxist job description) told me I had until 1pm Monday to submit a question for consideration. If the question was selected, then I would have the opportunity to ask the question myself, Live On National TV!<br />
Woot!</p>
<p>How I got to ask a question&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Questions&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 07:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Call for submissions. By some weird act of providence I&#8217;ve been invited to join the Q&#038;A audience on Monday night. One of the panelists is Professor Richard Dawkins of whom you may have heard I&#8217;ve also been invited to submit a question for Tony (aka The Thinking Women&#8217;s Crumpet according to Emma) to ask. I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Call for submissions.</strong><br />
By some weird act of providence I&#8217;ve been invited to join the Q&#038;A audience on Monday night. One of the panelists is Professor Richard Dawkins of whom you may have heard <img src='http://andersonpost.org/papermind/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I&#8217;ve also been invited to submit a question for Tony (aka The Thinking Women&#8217;s Crumpet according to Emma) to ask. I need to submit the question by midday Monday. So, I&#8217;m opening it up for suggestions. What should I ask? I&#8217;ll shout a coffee for the best suggestion&#8230;</p>
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		<title>An important Clarification&#8230;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[It has come to my attention that some people may have been misled into thinking that I was referring to lecturers at Moore Theological College when I began to lambast the Spawn of Socrates in my previous post&#8230; All I can do is express my UTTER HORROR at such a suggestion. No one educated in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has come to my attention that some people may have been misled into thinking that I was referring to lecturers at Moore Theological College when I began to lambast the Spawn of Socrates in my previous post&#8230;<br />
All I can do is express my UTTER HORROR at such a suggestion. No one educated in those august halls could imagine any of the esteemed Doctors of Learning being so gauche.</p>
<p>And to anyone else who might be tempted to make such slanderous accusations, I say this: certain classroom incidents that may, perhaps, have appeared to provide some refuge for such beliefs are revealed upon closer inspection to be subtle and deeply ironic subversions of the received pedagogical tradition.</p>
<p>Furthermore, the example question given in the previous post regarding the Prophet Jeffaniah is, I&#8217;m reasonably sure, something I heard while visiting SMBC (Sydney Missionary Bible College) and is CERTAINLY NOT a question on the 2nd Year Old Testament Exam.<br />
(Besides, everyone at Moore College knows that the Prophet Jeffaniah didn&#8217;t actually build a replica temple out of toothpicks. The work is really a late 2nd Century Jewish satire about Persian oral hygiene)</p>
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		<title>Astro-Ignominy</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was having a coffee at Campos today with Emma and casually reading the paper over her shoulder. She was reading the Daily Telegraph (my glasses feel soiled from refracting light beams that have touched that Paper). Emma appears impervious to its evil muck. I noticed this &#8216;pearl&#8217; from Jonathon Cainer, the Tele Astrologist: &#8216;Nothing [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was having a coffee at <em>Campos</em> today with Emma and casually reading the paper over her shoulder. She was reading the <em>Daily Telegraph</em> (my glasses feel soiled from refracting light beams that have touched that Paper). Emma appears impervious to its evil muck. I noticed this &#8216;pearl&#8217; from Jonathon Cainer, the <em>Tele</em> Astrologist:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8216;Nothing is certain but death and taxes.&#8217; So said American founding father, Benjamin Franklin. His politician&#8217;s soundbite still echoes through the centuries, but it omits another certainty: the movements of the planets. Astronomers can say, with confidence precisely where Venus or Mars will be this time next week or even on a given date in 3009. That&#8217;s why, for those who seek to foresee the future, the sky is so fascinating. Not everything up there, though, is predictable. Comets for example, can surprise everyone. With each day, it looks more likely that Comet Lulin will soon surprise us all.</p></blockquote>
<p><img src="http://andersonpost.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/Karzaman-Ahmad1.jpg" class="right" alt="Comet Lulin" />Ah, the movements of the Spheres &#8211; Aristotle would be so proud. Us, dull sublunary lovers, bound to change and decay can only gaze wistfully at the perfection in motion of the heavenlies. At least we could, until Kepler worked out that the Planets were dancing around in a kind-of Oval shape. It turns out that the level of determination/certainty in the movements of the planets is precisely the same for that of any physical object. Not more or Less.<br />
Which makes the whole business of fortune telling slightly bizzarre and contradictory, as can be seen from my particular horoscope:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8216;All things bright and beautiful&#8230;&#8217; So goes the popular old hymn. But of course, that&#8217;s not all the Good Lord (or Lady) made. The Devil, we are reliably informed by the good book, is a fallen angel. So who made him (or her)? It is all, we are told by those who consider themselves entitled to interpret such things, to do with &#8216;free will&#8217;. We all have it, but we don&#8217;t all use it. Currently, you feel as if you have a serious lack of choice. Whatever put you in this position, has also put, within your reach, an opportunity to get out of it. </p></blockquote>
<p>Hmm, here are three reasons why Jonathan Cainer is a turkey. [sadly, his being this particular species of turkey is contingent upon there being a whole posse of turkeys who take him seriously]</p>
<p><strong>1.</strong> We either have Free Will, which would make telling the future from Celestial Bodies (other than my wife) seem like a deeply, wildly, and breathtakingly fraudulent activity.</p>
<p><strong>2.</strong> We don&#8217;t have free will, and our level of causal determination would be precisely the same as that of the Planets, unless of course the Planets have free will&#8230;<br />
Hey, maybe they just, kind of, like, going around in not-quite circles&#8230; who knows?<br />
If we assume that the Planets don&#8217;t have free will, and neither do we, then it is still possible that there is a cause-effect relation between Planetary Behaviour and our own, but what direction does the relation flow?<br />
As Robin Williams in <em>The Fisher King</em> demonstrates, this is no easy thing. Maybe our behaviour determines the movement of the Spheres? (perhaps if I concentrate hard enough I can break up clouds with my mind &#8211; you&#8217;d have to be nude to focus the psychic energies&#8230;)<br />
<strong>3.</strong> Whatever weird and twisted cosmology could be formulated to prop up this chicanery, surely it gets grievously disturbed by the arrival of a UNEXPECTED COMET. To be fair, Comets really messed up Aristotle as well. A practice that pretends to predict the portentous from the regular motions of heavenly bodies takes a fair knock on the head when something shows up out-of-the-blue/black, and not only that, <a href="http://www.universetoday.com/2009/01/14/comet-lulin-is-on-the-way/">is heading in the wrong direction</a>.<br />
I love you Comet Lulin &#8211; you gloriously shiny, silver, turkey bullet.<br />
Ahh, maybe I&#8217;m just old and grumpy&#8230;<br />
after all, when I was your age Pluto was still a planet.</p>
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<h6>comet photo by <a href="http://www.spaceweather.com/comets/lulin/07jan09/Karzaman-Ahmad1.jpg">Karzaman-Ahmad</a></h6>
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		<title>relative courage</title>
		<link>http://andersonpost.org/2008/06/relative-courage/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 05:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<category><![CDATA[Dorothy L. Sayers]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[â€œFew things are more striking than the change which has taken place during my own lifetime in the attitude of the intelligentsia towards the spokesmen of Christian opinion. When I was a child, bishops expressed doubts about the Resurrection, and were called courageous. When I was a girl, G. K. Chesterton professed belief in the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>â€œFew things are more striking than the change which has taken place during my own lifetime in the attitude of the intelligentsia towards the spokesmen of Christian opinion. When I was a child, bishops expressed doubts about the Resurrection, and were called courageous. When I was a girl, G. K. Chesterton professed belief in the Resurrection, and was called whimsical. When I was at college, thoughtful people expressed belief in the Resurrection &#8220;in a spiritual sense&#8221;, and were called advanced; (any other kind of belief was called obsolete, and its professors were held to be simpleminded). When I was middle-aged, a number of lay persons, including some poets and writers of popular fiction, put forward rational arguments for the Resurrection, and were called courageous. Today, any lay apologist for Christianity&#8230; whose works are sold and read, is liable to be abused in no uncertain terms as a mountebank, a reactionary, a tool of the Inquisition, a spiritual snob, an intellectual bully, an escapist, an obstructionist, a psychopathic introvert, an insensitive extrovert, and an enemy of society. The charges are not always mutually compatible, but the common animus behind them is unmistakable, and its name is fear. Writers who attack these domineering Christians are called courageous.â€ (Dorothy L. Sayers, <em>The Poetry of Search and the Poetry of Statement</em>, London, 1963, p. 69)</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, at least in the last 45 years the pace of change has slowed down somewhat.</p>
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		<title>The Christ Files</title>
		<link>http://andersonpost.org/2008/03/the-christ-files/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 02:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<category><![CDATA[Dr John Dickson]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[We just finished watching The Christ Files with people from Church. Historian Dr John Dickson sets out to discover what we can know for certain about the life of one of historyâ€™s best known and most influential figures. In a captivating journey across the globe, Dr Dickson examines ancient documents and consults the worldâ€™s most [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We just finished watching <em>The Christ Files</em> with people from Church.</p>
<blockquote><p>Historian Dr John Dickson sets out to discover what we can know for certain about the life of one of historyâ€™s best known and most influential figures. In a captivating journey across the globe, Dr Dickson examines ancient documents and consults the worldâ€™s most respected historians and scholars. Beginning with the Gnostic Gospels, he criss-crosses continents on a search back through time for the historical sources that reveal the real Jesusâ€” a search for The Christ Files. (source: <a href="http://www.thechristfiles.com.au">www.thechristfiles.com.au</a>)</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s really good, and I have a high sensitivity towards cheesy Christian TV.</p>
<p>I have to confess that my overriding emotion while watching the programme was jealousy toward John Dickson &#8211; travelling all over the world and meeting the great and good of Biblical scholarship.</p>
<p>Emma and I are hoping to take a few copies of the DVD&#8217;s with us to South Africa.<br />
If you haven&#8217;t watched it, do.<br />
You can get a copy <a href="http://www.thechristfiles.com.au/">here</a>.</p>
<p>I also discovered when I was watching the credits that my cousin, Dave Sheerman, did the music for the production.<br />
(Hi Dave)</p>
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		<title>Immanentism</title>
		<link>http://andersonpost.org/2008/03/immanentism/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<category><![CDATA[Colin Gunton]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;If there is an intellectual direction in the culture that has developed over the last few centuries it is that which is rather barbarously labelled &#8216;immanentism&#8217;. That is to say, the phenomenon which at once characterises a culture and sets for Christian theology its central problem is the widely accepted belief that the world can [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;If there is an intellectual direction in the culture that has developed over the last few centuries it is that which<br />
is rather barbarously labelled &#8216;immanentism&#8217;. That is to say, the phenomenon which at once characterises a culture and sets for Christian theology its central problem is the widely accepted belief that the world can be understood from within itself, and not from any being or principle supposed to operate from without. Examples are to be found everywhere, from the characteristic modern &#8216;experience&#8217; of being alone in the universe to the brash technocratic optimism that sees in modern knowledge the key to the solution of all problems.&#8221; (Colin Gunton, <em>Yesterday and Today</em>, 2-3)</p></blockquote>
<p>I generally hate generalisations about anything, especially about cultures. But I also (evidently) don&#8217;t have a problem with being slightly contrary, so I&#8217;ll come out with it and say, I think Our Colin has nailed the cockroach to the wall with this one.<br />
I just wish &#8216;immanentism&#8217; was slightly easier to pronounce, then I could start accusing all sorts of people of being it.<br />
It certainly seems influential in many Christian attempts to rethink the presentation of the Gospel to our culture (think emergent church), and in the prevalence and brand of eschatology fashionable in theology (think &#8216;new creation&#8217; rather than &#8216;heaven&#8217;).<br />
You might have to think a while to join the dotted lines, but they are there, and they aren&#8217;t that dotty.</p>
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		<title>Persuasion in Mark</title>
		<link>http://andersonpost.org/2007/05/persuasion-in-mark/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 13:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The recent essay I had to write for our New Testament 1 course has given me a lot of food for thought*, particularly with regard to the techniques employed by Mark in seeking to persuade us that Jesus is the &#8216;Christ, the Son of God.&#8217; Have you ever thought that if you or I set [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The recent essay I had to write for our New Testament 1 course has given me a lot of food for thought*, particularly with regard to the techniques employed by Mark in seeking to persuade us that Jesus is the &#8216;Christ, the Son of God.&#8217;<br />
<a href='http://andersonpost.org/2007/05/08/persuasion-in-mark/narrative-2/' rel='attachment wp-att-190' title='Narrative'><img src='http://andersonpost.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/narrative.jpg' alt='Narrative' style="float:right; margin: 10px" border="0" height="auto" width="auto"/></a><br />
Have you ever thought that if you or I set out to convince someone that they should follow Jesus, give him their personal allegiance to the point of death, that we probably wouldn&#8217;t be content to simply present a narrative?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just come back from a mission week where we were engaged in a whole range of evangelistic presentations. We gave out CD&#8217;s and knocked on doors.  I sat in on a &#8216;dialogue meeting&#8217; (question and answer time with Christians and non-Christians), and spoke at a Chapel service. Each activity was designed to engage with people and persuade them that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God.</p>
<p>Yet we didn&#8217;t once engage in the form of persuasion and teaching that was employed by the writers of the Gospels.</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t want to fall into the sad, trendiness, of those &#8216;Evangelists&#8217; who want us to simply tell each other our &#8216;stories&#8217;. Narrative theology is all the rage at the moment and it has been very influential in thinking through how we preach and proclaim God&#8217;s word. It helpfully reminds us to be attentive to the form in which God&#8217;s word presents truth. It&#8217;s good to remember that the literary form of the scriptures isn&#8217;t just an accident of history. There are no accidents in history.</p>
<p>So why does Mark tell a story where he (and we) might reasonably have chosen a more direct form of argument?<br />
I thought about this a lot while I was working to understand the overall significance of the feeding miracles for Mark&#8217;s presentation of Jesus.</p>
<p>I think the feeding miracles form a piece of the interpretative framework which Mark is unfolding for the reader. By that I mean, Mark isn&#8217;t just writing a narrative of Jesus&#8217; life. He&#8217;s writing a narrative that will have a certain effect on the reader. Mark is creating a framework that is designed to create a reader who will encounter the events of Jesusâ€™ death equipped to understand them as (among other things) the climax of Jesusâ€™ kingly provision for his followers.</p>
<p>Mark establishes a resonance in the mind of the reader through his description of events. As you progress through the narrative, Jesusâ€™ breaking bread to feed the hungry crowds, echoes in his breaking bread for his disciples at the Passover.<br />
Jesusâ€™ compassion, his power, his superabundant provision, are in the mind of the reader as he or she comes to the final meal that Jesus shares with his disciples. As the bread is broken once more, Mark adds the final touches to the framework through which the reader will encounter the death of Jesus.<br />
The narrative structure of Mark is intended to create a reader who is capable of understanding the true significance of the disturbing events at the end.</p>
<p>Mark faced the difficulty of presenting a message to individuals who could not possibly have the framework of experience to understand its significance. How could anyone hear of the execution of a man for blasphemy and come to the conclusion that he is the answer to our seeking after God? In itself, the death of Jesus is a deeply ambiguous event.</p>
<p>We face the same problem as we seek to share the message of Jesus with people who are completely unequipped to understand it. On a practical level, the average Aussie doesn&#8217;t see themselves as occupying the same narrative world as Jesus, our questions about life seem different, the history of answers to these questions &#8211; the culture we share seems very removed from the world of the New Testament. On a spiritual level, the average Aussie is unable to understand the message of Jesus due to darkness and ignorance brought on by rebellion against God.</p>
<p>For anyone to encounter Jesus, his life, death, and resurrection &#8211; and to correctly understand the significance of these events &#8211; requires that they themselves be transformed into the kind of person capable of understanding. This requires the spiritual work of removing blindness. And it also requires the approach taken by Mark and the Gospel writers. The person will need to be transformed by the narrative so that they come to occupy the same thought-world, so that the reader is shaped to stand at the correct vantage point, the proper angle, from which to view the cross.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why its fascinating to study the narrative techniques by which Mark does this shaping, and to wonder how we could apply similar techniques to our engagement with people.<br />
Who&#8217;d be interested in writing an evangelistic book along these lines?</p>
<p>*topic of the essay was &#8220;What is the significance of the feeding miracles for Markâ€™s presentation of the ministry of Jesus?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Starting a Declaration</title>
		<link>http://andersonpost.org/2007/04/starting-a-declaration/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 12:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Then Paul stood in the middle of the Areopagus and said: â€œMen of Athens! I see that you are extremely religious in every respect. For as I was passing through and observing the objects of your worship, I even found an altar on which was inscribed: TO AN UNKNOWN GOD Therefore, what you worship in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Then Paul stood in the middle of the Areopagus and said: â€œMen of Athens! I see that you are extremely religious in every respect. For as I was passing through and observing the objects of your worship, I even found an altar on which was inscribed:</p>
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TO AN UNKNOWN GOD</ul>
<p>Therefore, what you worship in ignorance, this I proclaim to you. (Acts 17:22-23 HCSB)</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>4 Questions:</strong></p>
<p>How would you go about starting a conversation about Jesus?</p>
<p>What about a conversation, not just with a friend but with city?</p>
<p>How would you begin, not a conversation but a declaration about Jesus, to a city?</p>
<p>If we were to translate Paul into Martin Place, how would he begin?</p>
<p>Any thoughts?</p>
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